Jonah: I'm not a fan of being matched up against either of these teams. It's not that I'm scared of them or that I think the Hawks can't win, because I think if we've learned anything from Iowa's season, it's that on any given day, they will come out and play to the level of their competition (whether that's FCS Northern Iowa or #8 Ohio State). So I think we would put on a good show for the viewers at home against any of the possible BCS teams. However, I do think it's a lose-lose for the school and the Big 10.
Picture this, Iowa squares off in the Fiesta Bowl against #6 Boise State (which is what ESPN.com is predicting). They come out and beat BSU - doesn't matter whether it's close or not. They were supposed to win that one, right? Bigger school, bigger conference, played tougher competition all year. They are playing a non-BCS school so they should win regardless of how good they are. No respect for Boise, no respect for Iowa. The only thing that could come out of that scenario is that the fight the non-BCS conferences are putting up to get the system changed would have just gotten a whole lot harder. Now their pride and joy just got knocked off by the #2 team in a down conference that nobody respects, but still thinks is better than you.
Scenario #2: BSU comes out and beats Iowa - again, doesn't matter by how much. Now you have all the talking heads around the country talking about how Iowa didn't deserve a BCS bid, how the Big 10 truly is terrible and how a team with two losses should never get in again. Boise, on the other hand, still isn't getting the respect they deserve. Remember, they just beat a 10-2 team from a "bad" (bad as in they have 3 of the top 11 teams in the country - sense the sarcasm?) conference that couldn't even handle Northwestern at home (enough with the ol' backup QB excuse, the kid had already taken three snaps in garbage time against Iowa State). So again, no respect for Boise, no respect for Iowa. The real issue now for college football is you've really riled up those non-BCS conferences. They just took an undefeated team and beat a BCS school (oh by the way, they already beat a team that may be playing for the Rose Bowl). So nobody is getting respect and we get to listen to more playoff talk on Capitol Hill (now I am all for a playoff, but I'd like my congressman to stick with screwing me on things he was elected for rather than talking college football).I just don't see this playing out well for the Hawkeyes either way. I think we probably match up better with Boise, simply because of their style and the athletes they have. Without too close of an analysis, I have to imagine that they don't have O-linemen like PSU or OSU so I like our D-line's chances. I also have to believe our O-line can push them around at least a little. I don't think they've been tested as much as TCU (only the game against Oregon in week 1 should actually count as a college game, while TCU has played BYU and Utah), but they do have quite a bit of big game experience. TCU seems too similar to us for me to really like our chances there. I think we could win, but I also think they could beat us at our own game. That being said, I think TCU would probably beat Boise head to head. Jerry?
Jerry: I think this game would be really, really close. These two teams have high scoring offenses and decent defenses. With that said I think that TCU would win in a matchup over Boise State. TCU has 33 total sacks this season (tied for 13th in the nation) while Boise has 23. Boise State has forced 20 interceptions (tied with Florida and Iowa for 4th in the nation, while TCU has forced 14 interceptions (which is tied for 25th in the nation). TCU gives up 12.4 points per game compared to Boise's 18.6. All of these numbers are really close, so why do I believe TCU would win in a matchup? Strength of Schedule and the run game. TCU has a harder schedule (not by much) than Boise State. Boise did start off the season with a win against Oregon, but I can't help but think that Oregon would give it to Boise if they played today. TCU had to play BYU and Utah (both ranked number 16 when they played them). What did TCU do? They scored 93 points in the two games, and only gave up 35. TCU has the 68th hardest schedule in the country, while Boise has the 80th. It's not a big margin, but it is enough (remember I said it would be really, REALLY close). TCU has a four headed monster in the run game with Joseph Turner, Matthew Tucker, Ed Wesley, and quarterback Andy Dalton. These four have 2,551 yards on the ground alone, and each of the three runningbacks have big play ability. Boise State has a great quarterback in Kellen Moore, and big weapons in wide receivers Titus Young and Austin Pettis, but because this team is more of a "pass first team", I think TCU can run the ball and control the clock better; keeping Boise's defensive backs from cheating when they throw.
So those are our thoughts. How bout yours?
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Don't forget about our road win over Clemson, that's another signature win for us. Also, don't forget last season's Poinsietta Bowl... a TCU 17-16 win over Boise. Check out the stats of that game though, we straight dominated. It is a new year though, but I'm guessing that'...s still semi-relevant.
Regardless, I think we would take the Hawkeyes. We really have so many weapons, it's scary. And combine a top 5 defense for 2 years running with an exploding offense that had 4 games straight of 500 yds of offense (300+ on the ground in each contest) per game...that's solid.
Lastly, just as you guys look at a game against us as a lose-lose, we feel the same way. Beating a 2-loss "Big" Ten team doesn't legitimize us at all, by any margin. We want Cincy or the SEC title loser...those are the only 2 matchups that could prove we belong with the big boys
Appreciate the thoughts and I take it you're a TCU guy. I would have to agree that beating Iowa would get TCU or Boise State nowhere as we actually get less respect than you do, despite being from a BCS conference (yeah, yeah, the "Big" Ten is down - keep in mind we are the only conference other than the SEC with 3 teams in the top 15, all of which are in the top 11). I disagree, however, that beating Cincy would get you in the same league as the "big boys." Outside the Big East and apparently the mid-majors, I don't think many people would count Cincy or any other Big East team as a "big boy." They haven't beaten anybody fantastic this year and gave up 36 points to Illinois. I mean, come on, Illinois is terrible. I have to believe if they play anyone with a defense (don't tell me you think anyone in the Big East plays defense) they would struggle to put up 40+ points. And if they are giving up 36 to the worst team in the Big 10 (3-8), I have to believe they can be scored upon. I think TCU would handle Cincy, but I don't for a minute believe that it would legitimize TCU as a power.
Yeah, I agree. I was just saying that out of the options of Boise State, Cincy, Oregon, Ohio State, Iowa, Georgia Tech, Virginia Tech, and Oregon State, those were the only two teams people actually have respect for right now.
The mood around campus is this: 1) We want Pitt to beat Cincy and Nebraska to beat Texas this weekend so that we go to the National Championship. If that doesn't happen (which it probably won't) we want 2) to face the SEC Champion.
Anything less will be a disappointment and anticlimactic end to our best season since the 30's.
I meant SEC runner-up.
I meant the SEC runner-up.
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